Function identifiers, added comment: shielding sovereign use.

   Some identifiers that can be used to easily identify who has what
   (...) http://www.socialism.nl/post/000/333.html

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   # re: Function identifiers
   jos boersema

   On second thought: please don`t use the above identifiers for your
   personal organizations. If you want to use such badges, you could make
   them in your own style, there probably is not an emergency then so all
   the time you need. Secondly your private organization does not mean
   (may not mean) anything to other people and does not have to. You can
   use your own private designs.

   The designs above are likely more widely reckognized, this makes them
   ideal for use during a sovereign revolution. If the information gets
   muddled by organizations using these exact or very similar designs,
   that could come back as confusion at a time when that confusion can be
   costly.

   I`d say: if you like you can use the simplified forms: () voter green,
   [] 1st level delegate red, X second level delegate local government
   blue, = second level delegate 1/50th province level blue, * second
   level delegate national government blue/yellow. Then combine that for
   instance with your group or party logo, instead of in above manner
   with white/purple David star.

   Maybe we can make the agreement that use of the simplified forms (),
   [], X, = and * is only supposed to mean (for sure) "sovereign
   Government use" if it is blue on a white/light-grey background.
   That means all other colors settings for the simplified forms is also
   free and should not produce confusion.

   This means I suppose that signs with taken out white/purple-DAVID star
   emblym in the above can be used for whatever without causing
   confusion. The simplified forms in green ink on white could also be
   used for whatever.

   Posted @ 12/14/2008 10:36 AM  

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PS Sun Jan  4 05:11:18 UTC 2009

Some functions in words:
( ) Voter in block: [block] voter
(*)                 [block] housekeeper / [block] administrator
[ ]                 1st [local] [delegate]
[*]                 1st [local] chair[person]
> <                 2nd [local] [delegate]
>*<                 2nd [local] chair[person]
===                 [2nd delegate] province 
=*=                 [2nd delegate] province chair[person]
} {                 [2nd delegate] national
}*{                 [2nd delegate] national chair[person]
EC1 oldest          [national] EC-1
EC2 second oldest.. [national] EC-2, [national] EC-3, ... , [national] EC-10
(Someone else might be able to come up with better names for these.)

In military terms
( ) Voter in block: [block] voter
                     soldier
(*)                 [block] housekeeper / [block] administrator
                     seargant
[ ]                 1st [local] [delegate]
                     kaptain
[*]                 1st [local] chair[person]
                     kolonel / general
> <                 2nd [local] [delegate]
                     major / general
>*<                 2nd [local] chair[person]
                     general / marshal
===                 [2nd delegate] province 
                     kolonel / general
=*=                 [2nd delegate] province chair[person]
                     general / marshal
} {                 [2nd delegate] national
                     general / marshal
}*{                 [2nd delegate] national chair[person]
                     marshal
This is based roughly on sizes for a moderate 20 million nation.
The military ranks start to lose meaning at about 1 million, these
civil Government ranks make much larger steps in size then the
military ranks do. Because of the size similarity however, a person
capable of being a "kaptain" (about 100 people) in the military, is
also likely to be able to be a first level delegate. To be higher
one would quickly need to be able to be a general, which means being
able to take all variables of the moment into account rather then
focus on completing a given sub-task succesfully. On the highest
civil ranks the military equivalent is either marshal or far above
marshal (up to 100 times larger groups), which means one would not
only be capable of taking all relevant variables into account as they
are, but also how they develop in the foreseeable future to make
adequate politicies for the future.

On the one hand the military is given a specific task, which makes
its management easier, on the other hand that task is fighting under
extreme stress and short life or death time limits, which makes it
harder then civil Government. Hence there seems to be some similarities
between the varies ranks, and the required ability to lead / understand
involved for either. The more people live in a nation, the more
difficult it is to lead it. On the other hand there is more chance of
having significantly competent people present in such large groups.

A marked difference between military ranks and civil Government ranks
is that in this model the civil ranks stand below the "collective
will" of the lower ranks. This is comparable to the army as a whole,
which subjugates itself to the mass will of the people, as it formulates
itself (is presumed to formulate itself) in the political offices of
the nation. The civil Government ranks, however, carry this servitude
to the collective will into its own body, whereas the military is
internally strictly top-down rule with little to no power for the lower 
ranks.

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See also: post/000/333.html     Function identifiers
See also: post/002/020-* *.jpg  Simplified rank designators.
See also: post/002/038-*        Democracy from the barrel of a gun