More on hospital organization (modular), and health care insurance ------------------------------------------------------------------ My step sister (V) mentioned that it worked quite well to have a larger hospital operate as a collection of multiple independent organizations. That appears to be a useful idea. Semi-independent (or fully independent) smaller organizations are much easier to manage themselves, and they will create a market / comparison / competition (even if merely in culture/theory) between them. Something good, a good example, can spread, a bad example is more easily corrected; the separate horizontally equal managements can use each other for inspiration and be corrected. The same mechanisms which operate between sovereign countries. These separate organizations within the same larger hospital (employing thousands of people) would do their own accounting and money flow, their own people hiring and firing. The units could for instance focus on a certain aspect of medicine, and do all the necessary work around it, from cleaning to maintenance. An alternative would be to separate per profession, however this would undercut the ability to compare since it is hard to compare brain surgery with cleaning and so on. But if most organizations have "medical specialists" and "cleaners" and so on, things could be compared. Apparently this worked very well at the location where she experienced it, it could be something to replicate further. The smaller sub-organizations could also make the whole hospital more transparent for both the state, the public and the patients. Elsewhere on this site was suggested to make the hospital infrastructure state owned, because usually bankruptcy is not an option with a large hospital; but one could always fire everyone and keep the infrastructure, hiring new staff in case of a "bankruptcy." That would be a benefit of state owned hospital infrastructure, it remains outside of a bankruptcy, the hospital - if positioned in an independent way in the free market - could rent the infrastructure and the more expensive machines from the state. Such a set up could make a bankruptcy less costly: fire everyone, create a new hospital group/company, and re-hire everyone that isn't to blame for the bankruptcy and/or is of good quality (and so on). If it can be assured no new bankruptcy occurs, one could even re-hire everyone immediately. Some sort of danger with that is that doing business with a hospital, maybe some other businesses would feel threatened by the idea that the hospital could declare bankruptcy as a means to destroy their payment obligations to them. (Maybe a little far fetched danger.) But if the state owns the infrastructure and larger machines or even all inventory of the hospital down to the last cup of coffee, then the state would be doing business with other industries (the hospital would want to buy something, the state buys it and rents it to the hospital: the state is liable to the machine producing companies to pay the price of the machinery.) By cutting a large hospital up into smaller units, in theory perhaps one could reach the size where it can be run like a normal for profit business, who gets its revenue from the state health insurance bureaucracy. The "useful market pressures" effect being mostly the ability of patients to choose their own hospital, and the state deciding to reward moneys to the hospitals according to their successes and general good behavior (assuming that the state is truly the will of the public.) It may still be a good idea to run these hospital units as democratized units, either only internally democratized and externally depending on the state health insurance to pay the costs and renting contracts for infrastructure; or also enveloped into the management structure elements of the patients and/or the state (directly). A problem with more "independent" units is that they can have a monopolized business: there being only one "heart surgery" unit, one "birth" unit, and so on. This is not enough competition within that single hospital to speak of true free market cleaning effects. Such effects would only occur between different hospitals and their respective "heart surgery" departments, "birth" units, and so on. Despite it being a strange kind of business, a semi-public business or highly Government dependent business, the idea of managerially independent units is probably still functional. It would probably function, even if it isn't quite a free business like others (who would own their own properties and machines, and lose them in case of bankruptcy, and do business with free market actors, people and the state alike - the hospital unit would not own its property, not own its machines and perhaps own nothing, not lose these in case of bankruptcy, only do business with the probably nationalized (mostly) health insurance on behalf of patients who do have the free choice to go to that particular hospital). Maybe there isn't a good and simple word for it, or an obvious and clear mechanism (either nationalized like roads, or free market and free initiative), it would probably be enough of a simple structure that it would work and be manageable from the varies angles. In addition to this, the small hospitals or specialist clinics could lay the fire of competition at the knees of the larger hospitals. Such a mechanism would be the same as with the finance industry, where there is potential for (accredited) good causes to do investment in their own way thus providing the state with a comparison they do not control. These small time hospitals of a size small enough that bankruptcy does not cause disruption, even if just a few though more is in theory better, could provide invaluable ideas about what hospital services and specialists are worth in the free market. It also gives specialists and any health care people a way out of the state controlled environment, although they'd still need to get money for services from the health insurance system. In theory they could also rent machinery and infrastructure from the state, in which case they'd be in (more of) the same situation as the other hospitals. This appears to be more or less an exhaustive system that can work, leaving no holes as far as I can see. A problem seems to be the pay by the health insurance: if health insurance is only coming from one source, the health insurance could dictate prices. The only way around that for the medical specialists (and other health care workers, the whole hospital/unit) would be to go on strike until demands are met. Patients could steer these issues by going to more expensive hospitals, if a hospital can set its own rates for services. If health-insurance is differentiated by cost, for example as: -> "One would pay 1% of service costs up to a maximum of $2000,-" => Then pay $100,- a month. -> "One would pay .5% of service costs up to a maximum of $1000,-" => Then pay $130,- a month. -> "One would pay 0% of service costs, never pay anything." => Then pay $150,- a month. And so on, this way patients would have an incentive to go to the cheaper hospitals without getting into too much risk, but if they feel the cheaper hospitals are death traps then they will probably choose the more extensive coverage and go to more expensive hospitals. Thus stimulating a higher pay for the hospitals, who are then free to decide where to place that money: with better equipment, or higher salaries to attract better people (and so on.) It remains to be seen if choosing hospitals can be done rationally. I'd be the first to acknowledge that a hospital that has a higher death rate and lower curing rate may in fact be the better hospital. The problem being that for some reason it is always getting more difficult patients, perhaps due to a worse local environment causing people to be sick easier and heal slower. In that case the apparently "bad" hospital might still be the best choice. Comparison is probably a relatively complicated issue, but in theory it could all be researched, and the people could understand it; the market system could then still function. As always so it seems: everything is 10 times more complicated when it comes to health care then anything else.