Generic symbols and seals

DAVID-star-symbol (the small seal). (See for description, star-part: http://www.socialism.nl/~joshb/DAVID.html

DAVID-star-symbol, black/white with David letters over it. (See for description, star-part: http://www.socialism.nl/~joshb/DAVID.html

4 quarters square.

Broomstick and keyboard.

Flag. (See for description: http://www.socialism.nl/~joshb/flag.html
Flag with banners.

Ring in 5 colors white, brown, blue, red, yellow (also not unique enough to be local to this DAVID-system.)

Special symbols and seals

Circle with 5 internal circles divided by lines.

Circle with 5 internal circles with dots (housekeeper / chairperson)

Circle of 50 persons in 5 colors white, brown, blue, red, yellow, around a fire (a symbol not unique enough to be local to this DAVID-system).

Personal position

The representative Government insignia exist in a simplified dual color shoulder form, and a larger form. The distinguishing marks are mentioned in parentheses.

insignia type symbols

Voter (circle, like an 'o').

Voter group housekeeper (circle with central point).

1st order delegate (square).

Chair person 1st order delegate (square with central point).

2nd order delegate (two diagonally crossed beams, like an 'x').

Chair person 1st order delegate (two diagonally crossed beams with central point)

Provincial delegate (two beams above each other, like an '=').

Provincial council chair person (two beams above each other with central point).

National council (three beams crossing each other, two diagonally but slanted to the horizontal, and one vertical).

National council chair person (three beams crossing each other, two diagonally but slanted to the horizontal, and one vertical). .

Electoral committee oldest member (cup shape, one dot below/left).

Electoral committee 2nd oldest member (cup shape, horizontally besides each other two dots below/left).

Electoral committee 3rd oldest member (cup shape, horizontally besides each other three dots below/left).

Electoral committee 4th oldest member (cup shape, horizontally besides each other four dots below/left).

Electoral committee 5th oldest member (cup shape, horizontally besides each other five dots below/left).

Electoral committee 6th oldest member (cup shape, horizontally besides each other five dots below/left, one dot below/right).

Electoral committee 7th oldest member (cup shape, horizontally besides each other five dots below/left, two dots horizontally besides each other below/right)

Electoral committee 8th oldest member (cup shape, horizontally besides each other five dots below/left, three dots horizontally besides each other below/right)

Electoral committee 9th oldest member (cup shape, horizontally besides each other five dots below/left, four dots horizontally besides each other below/right)

Electoral committee 10th oldest member (cup shape, horizontally besides each other five dots below/left, five dots horizontally besides each other below/right)

Advice council member for 1st order council (name and function on a background showing a square shape using 2 colors, around the name/function).

Advice council member for 2nd order council (name and function on a background showing a shape of two diagonally crossed beams using 2 colors, around the name/function). See just above.

Advice council member for country council (name and function on a background showing a shape of three diagonally crossed beams using 2 colors, two are diagonally crossed slanted to the horizontal, one is vertical, around the name/function). [In principle they show the insignia shapes for the type of council they are working for.] See just above.

insignia type symbols: army and police (optional)

Scheme-5 military flag (uprising for essential freedoms of speech and assembly, for all, for us and our opponents):
http://www.socialism.nl/post/002/107-military_flag.jpg
http://www.socialism.nl/post/002/107-rank-example.jpg
http://www.socialism.nl/post/002/107-rank-illustration.jpg (Not displayed, because scheme-5 is an emergency and normally depricated scheme, use with caution, see post/002/107-... and elsewhere.)

Soldier 3rd class: nothing

Soldier 2nd class: one bar

Soldier 1st class: two bars

For the rest of the military ranks 2nd class is "new, learning" is yellow(ish), and 1st class is "proven, well trained" is silver. Corporal (section): two bars, one dot

Sergeant (group): two bars, two dots

Lieutenant (platoon): one star

Captain (company): two stars

Major (battalion): oak leafs, one star

Colonel (regiment): oak leafs, two stars

Brigadier, Brigadier-General (Brigade): crossed swords, one star

Sergeant-General (Division): crossed swords, two stars

Lieutenant-General (Corps): crossed swords, three stars

Captain-General (Army): crossed swords, four stars

Special Mutual-Strategic-Command ranks: Major-General (Army group): one hand

Colonel-General (fields of armies): two hands besides each other

Campaign-General (life of the campaign): three hands in an inverted triangle configuration

Special non-combat ranks: same as above, but not yellow or silver, but red.

Forces colors: land: green

sea: blue

air: grey

(Optional) Police ranks, rank symbols in blue, on gold strip (this gold/yellow does not mean 'second class,' it is a separate ranking system, similar for convenience (mine I guess).) Agent 3rd class: nothing

Agent 2nd class: one bar

Agent 1st class: two bars

Section supervisor: two bars, one dot

Group supervisor: two bars, two dots

Platoon supervisor: one star

Company supervisor: two stars

Battalion supervisor: one bar, one star

Regiment supervisor: one bar, two stars

Brigade supervisor: one dot, one star

Division supervisor: one dot, two stars

Corps supervisor: one dot, three stars

Head supervisor (or some name you like): one dot, four stars. Higher police ranks aren't made here, you can make them if you want to.

other, non-insignia type symbols

King elect: crown.

King elect: throne.

Sovereign inspector: armbands (see just above at crown).

King elect: scepter (no graphic made).

King elect: King Rule scepter (no graphic made).

DAVIDWE MP (Member of Parliament): black armband.

DAVIDWE MP: red/white armband (both red/white and black shown).

Group symbols

The typical usage of these would be on the door or above the door where that class of council is meeting, and on their archives folders, their invitations and publications. Since it only denotes a class, more identifications would be necessary. However it is a quick way to get some idea. The symbols are unique/weird enough that nobody would by accident make something up like this to mean something else.

Voter groups (the central dot is the housekeeper; the arrow refers to the voting process and to influencing their delegate):

1st order councils (the 5 circles are the 5 sub-councils and the 5 arrows are a representation of proposals bouncing back and forth between them, the large circle is the council as a whole):

When the delegates group in large councils it becomes useful that they divide between themselves into sections that appoint one delegate to sit in a council for that section. The difference with the voter-group is that a voter-group has a fixed size, whereas a delegate section can have any size. That makes it possible for the system to encompass any number of people: the first level is fixed and the second level is infinitely dynamic in size. Below symbol is for a section of delegates. Typically delegates would be part of several such sections for larger and larger councils (depending on the needs of their location). Keep in mind that this is something different from the internal division into grouplets of a council, who debate and shift proposals back and forth between them, and who may choose a spokesperson and/or chairperson for their grouplet meetings.

2nd order councils (the 5 pointed star has the element of dividing, it divides the outer circle like the large group of 1st order delegates divide themselves in 50 sections; the area in each of the 5 arms represents one sub-council and the inner circle represents the 2nd order council as a whole; the outer circle represents all the 1st order delegates who support and vote in that 2nd order council (the grand council of that 2nd order council; the two arrows on the bottom refer to the 2 voting steps necessary to set up this council; (a theoretical 3rd order council is forbidden by the Constitution)):

2nd order council with Provincial Council delegate insignia added, meaning it is the Provincial Council.

2nd order council with Country Council delegate insignia added, meaning it is the Country Council.

This is hereby defined as a 1st order council which is unifying all delegates within a certain concentration of houses (a place, a village, town, city, etc). It could also be the grand-governing council associated with a 2nd order village/city council, conciddering that the grand-governing council is by definition the 1st order council associated with a 2nd order council (and therefore "1st order"). It could be used also when there are several tiny villages who need to join up to have a complete constitutional council, so that this symbol denotes their shared unified council over all those joined villages. I suppose that if the majority of delegates in a city or village agree that some certain council is in fact deemed to be the unified city or village council, then by that token it is.

This is hereby defined as the 2nd order council which is unifying all delegates within a certain concentration of houses (a place, a village, ...). I suppose these symbols give rise to two new shoulder insignia possibilities: a square with a dot up/down/left/right to it, and an x with a dot up/down/left/right to it, to denote the delegates associated with a unifying council for a certain village/town/city (or places if too small for even one council). I guess that is not a bad idea, since clarity is the goal and people might like to know what council is for the entire place (but I'm starting to wonder whether people will be able to keep track with all the symbols; isn't this getting out of hand ? Maybe it doesn't matter too much who knows all these symbols or who wants to use them or not, because I wouldn't even know what the symbol for the mayor in my own town is where I've lived for decades, which doesn't mean that therefore the city has turned to chaos. They can be used, those who like to use/know them could benefit from them, it would add order one way or the other (and it would impress the criminals that yes indeed, there is an established order and yes indeed, you will get hunted if you do something bad ... just look at all the complex symbolisms being used, that for sure is something fancy, impressive stuff ... ;))

2nd order council with 2nd order delegate insignia added, meaning someone took the trouble of adding a delegate insignia inside, and would probably have taken the trouble to use one of the other defined categories if those matched that council, which apparently therefore it didn't. Hence it is a 2nd order non-village, non-provincial, non-national council - which could make it a 2nd order neighborhood council (or something else.)

In need of more, better definitions, other symbols ... I guess that's what the councils are for: propose something ! !

This design with black circles inside the 5 arms is one that I prefer, because it is calmer (someone I asked thought the other one was nicer to look at, which I agree with, but with the circles it seems calmer and that may be more important). The design without the circles is more spiky, it is more in your face, more brazen, bold. The design without circles is also simpler which tends to be better. But these features are exactly what you don't want the councils to be, the councils should be calm, honest, deliberate, procedural, transparent. Therefore I think it is better to sacrifice something that may be nicer to look at, for something that may inspire people to be more calm and deliberate. With the circles the symbol becomes inwardly looking. I assume that most people are ruled about 80% by the symbols they see around. The revolution could literally break down because of something as innocuous as this ... imho. Please use the design with the circles in the arms then. Just to be sure. If not, the delegates could start to act up brazenly, self-servingly and what not, merely because that's the flavor they get when they see what they think is their identity-sign. I hope I'm wrong on this, but any case better be safe.

In case you are wondering whether these symbols couldn't have been created in better quality: feel free to add your creativity. The design should be obvious enough to make a more perfect version for use. The idea to make subcouncil symbols simple is because they have no power as such, and to suggest they have to work before they are anything. An obvious extension would be the name or color of the subcouncil as the color or fill color of the small circle.

All these group/council/section/grouplet symbols can be combined with (geographic) place flags. For example (to keep it uniform and therefore legible) placing them in order or size from top to bottom or left to right: nation, province, place, place/neighborhood, color/number. In this example the lowest is a number, apparently in that council they have given the delegate sections numbers to identify them. For a council grouplet symbol using grouplet colors for identification, the obvious choice is to give the lowest symbol box the color of that grouplet. A province council would only need two symbol boxes (nation flag and province flag/symbol), the national council would only have one flag (the national flag). The language should obviously be such that if someone had a table of all flags/symbols being used, they could find any exact grouping. A flag/symbol only needs to be unique on their level: if two cities use the same flag it won't be a problem if they are in different provinces (an extreme example of using the same flag in different areas would be if many councils use color schemes for their grouplets). For added clarity one could place the shoulder insignia for nation, province, place (village/city dots) and/or 2nd order council, first order council, voter, besides the flags to denote the organizational level. Benefit of this method is that you'd generally want to say what exact grouping something is, but to write all the names at length is long. For councils, who must choose a name, that name could be written somewhere along with the whole symbol, defining that symbol for that particular group with a reasonable certainty. Nothing like a little order and clarity for what might become confusing ? To add clarity laws could be made about these symbols, their appearance, their use, their change, their registration, their use encouraged or enforced.

Remarks

If you want to pursue this system, it is important to realize that the symbols presented here do not all fall in the category of advertising and branding. Many do and many do not. Everything, including the Constitutional flag and DAVID-Coat of Tools, under the first chapter 'Generic symbols and seals' can be used freely within this system, to advertise. These symbols can be used 'the more, the better.'

Everything that is not in that first chapter tends to be for restricted use. Using it widely and indiscriminately might harm this system. For example: to wear the insignia of a voter in the Sovereign Government colors while not actually being so organized properly, may confuse people later, despoiling the purpose of those symbols. Example: plastering everywhere the symbol for a 2nd order council may confuse such actual councils who may want to indicate where they are organized. Example: to print the DAVID-coat-of-tools on the back of your jacket is appropriate, a form of advertising, you advocate the system in public. Example: to print T-shirts with the Constitutional flag is appropriate, more advertising, good. Example: to wear a red/white bracelet while being an MP for a DAVID system party, while everyone (including you) agrees the time for Revolution has not come may end up being confusing, thus it is inappropriate. It would be better to indicate in another way that you wanted things to change, for example by wearing a button with the DAVID-star (or one of the other generic symbols).

The symbols in 'Special symbols and seals,' are a case of doubt, you decide what you think is appropriate. The problem with the 50 persons is that it also denotes a council by its own representation. You might say 'we want this type of Government,' or it might say 'this is a council.' I'd say it can be both, therefore I don't know: you decide. In this system it is not officially a council symbol at least, so you can do what you like.

Obviously these symbols made here are a bit less then perfect, feel free to make them better.

Appeal to respect Sovereign Government insignia colors

For all these symbols there should be several spare designs in case our enemies prepare and attempt a confusion campaign (which may cost us several days to circumvent, either by stripping the attack or by choosing other symbols).

Reality check ... ?