. . Subject: Re: The chairman has no clothes... . . . . . . On 2009-12-30, jos boersema wrote: [...] > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... Maybe one of the best common resistance goals is: disuniting the USA into many nations. This can bring a wide diversity of ideologies together. Jesus-cultists, patriots, capitalists, even the few marxists, all kinds can join because it is a common goal of meaningful democracy and national sovereign diversity in the USA, and most directly opposed to the central Government corruption. It seems that your secret service also knows this, I've heard/read that they've infiltrated many far-right wing break-away groups. Hence all existing groups are not a good way to organize / foment this resistance. New organizations with true bottom-up democratic protocol would be needed: see here for ideas on bottom up democracy http://www.socialism.nl/~joshb/constitution-short.html The beauty is that everyone nationally can join against the evil empire. Once that empire is defeated, many diverse nations may emergen in the USA, they can do things differently. Some may want to use a European style Constitution, others may want to do the exact old USA Constitution but then on a smaller scale, yet others might adopt a native indian polity (there's quite a few), maybe some would like to try my proposed model. That can all be settled later, and with people allowing to move between the new nations it shouldn't be too much of a reason for continued civil war. Those do this, those do that: all fine, we'll see how it all goes; what's attempted at one point doesn't mean it can't be changed later into something else. Give the native indians their land back: retreat into European population density nation-reserves, leave the rest to the traditional indians, vast areas, endless planes. The national sovereignty would be absolute, so get rid of your empire thinking. Crossing the line of another nation can mean that other nation will kill you, and have every right to: that's what absolute sovereignty is. If they let you live, it's a gift, if not, you went where you shouldn't have. > ... > ... > ... > ... -- http://www.socialism.nl