. . Subject: Re: Black Bloc =?windows-1252?Q?Communiqu=E9_Explains_Motives_?= =?windows-1252?Q?for_Olympic_Resistance?= . . . . . . . . . > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... [...] > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... [...] Found out why they said that. It is in no way a 'strategic' attack for us, for the people, for justice, for labor, not even nationally in the USA. It is hardly even tactical within the state it happened, or maybe just, if it was embedded in something real (which it isn't). I say tactical, doesn't say I agree with that tactic at all: I DO NOT AGREE WITH THEIR STUPID VIOLENCE. It wasn't even labor occupying their own corporations (under a claim of natural law ownership). But it can still be strategic in an entirely different game: to 'strategically' place before the American people the image of rioting people, where law & order in established through overwhelming paramilitary police forces. Bad cop / good cop, make the people scared of something and then protecting them under your terms. The old maffia game, the old Hitler strategy. Since Hitler like many western 'bosses' like to look at ancient Rome as the example to emulate, this strategy is potentially of Roman origin (who burned Rome ...). http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/235519.html Verify quote from Hermann Goering - Nuremburg Trials "Naturally the common people don't want war. But after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." --- Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich Marshall, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II. Did Germany attack Poland ? Heavens no: it was those Poles that attacked Germany, they bend one of the border crossing poles (heh). Clearly Germany had no choice but to attack and occupy Poland ... Back to the subject: this false contra violence would really be strategic for them, because you can't get away (easily) with just out of nothing proposing harsh opressive legislation, you need the excuse. Many people will fall for the excuse and keep supporting the state. Since for some of the USA establishment the state tyranny is the principled goal (the principle), getting the people to accept their laws and doing false provocative attacks is a main principle / strategy they need, and those attacks in front of the camera's at a highly visible event could therefore (because it is so highly visible an event) be 'strategic' for them (or so they hope maybe). "The 'games' where attacked, once more the barbarian hordes threaten the holy Roman empire ... let's huddle together around the chair of the Czar(s?) and sacrifice our money, time, energy and personal endeavour for our common cause: erecting state tyranny to crush the hordes ... only for the time being of course...". The anarchists, we haven't even begun and already they talk the language of the police state. Or was this just an unfortunate slip in the mind of some agent provocateurs ... or doesn't it matter one bit whether it is agents or 'true anarchists' doing it or providing the cover for it. But the anarchists already provide the cover for it, Dan Clore, Anarcissie, no other 'anarchist' either, none of them DENOUNCED this violence, and called upon the people behind their common flag (black flag), to quit the violence and crush those who would commit violence. Question: if in the protest some agents started to fling bottles at the police, or encouraged it, why wheren't these anarchists or agents (whatever, doesn't matter) immediately seized and detained and handed over to the police for their crimes ? ... this is the problem you get, when the intellectuals don't do their work. Take this Dan C. here, or this Anarcissie, or others here. Sure they have the brains to understand how things work, how things can get done, for example through my system. But they don't spread it, and then those with few or no hope see no other way out anymore either. Thanks for nothing anarchists, as usual you are the first to side over with the police state. You already have, again. You are doing their strategic operations. You bet they like you, even if at some point they might kill you all. You're an expensible lot, who isn't for the worst kinds of bosses; even the agent infiltrators would be killed off if their existence threatened their power. Agents, you even know how the worst of your bosses work ? They don't care how loyal you seem, if they got 3000 agents and 3000 of them are absolutely loyal, they'd still prefer 3000 dead if there is a .1% chance of one of them losing their loyalty. Dead man don't talk. If you read up on Al Martin's great work (exposé), you'd know it is standard operating procedure to kill everyone off after a major criminal operation. The first order of business after the installation of emergency rule (or whatever rule that has that effect of power concentration) might be to kill off the agent-provocateurs, lest they expose the game. That would, after all, threaten the very purpose of the violence. It would make the state the barbarians, rather then 'the people.' That's also why these anarchists say they represent people in cooperatives, so they can smear us all with their violence, so we can all get arrested while the people look the other way, thinking "they where only doin violence anyway, they get busted for their own fault." That's the game here. But you agents are the first to go, and second in line are the anarchists themselves, and after that it would be us and really anyone that threatens them politically / intellectually. After that it would be the useless eaters they don't need. You work for the Government as an agent-infiltrator: you are already marked for death by your own bosses. Tip then for your survival ? You got to store all the evil orders you got, material documents all that you need, video tapes, recordings, more and more. You store that somewhere, multiple places even, in ways that once you die it may come out. Store it overseas, these days you can store so much electronically it is nearly mind boggling. You can store mountains of documents on something the size of a fingernail. Then when they come for you, you can threaten them with it. Later on, much later, you could even try to profit from those documents by writing an exposé, or to assist in court cases. Don't have nothing to threaten your bosses, why would they risk keeping you around ? So you could talk one day ? Seeing the police state attacking ordinary people, that is an image that they don't want, unless they are ready for it in terms of fire power and ideological support from a large enough sector of the people. The powers of speech, voting, striking, buy choices, organizing, have not yet been removed. Your violence is therefore out of bounds and is the pretext to remove the powers we need to resque the situation (worldwide). We need freedom of speech and organization. If you remove those powers we will still win, but it would be better to do it the nice way. * Anarchists: the serfs for the police state tyrants, trying to cut off the people from using their political rights and hurry them into the state tyranny. Can we afford to take your violence and state corruption lightly ? I say: no. We can not take it lightly and therefore we must act with the worst possibilities in mind. History shows ... that if you take these things lightly, that won't help, and the worst comes true. -- ,,,,,,, ,,, http://www.socialism.nl ___/_/////////_//////,. \\\\ \\\\\\\\\ \\\` The Good Feather ASCII Ribbon campaign for ```````` ` decent Usenet discourse & etiquette.