. . Subject: Re: Al Martin predicts 'classic' overproduction/under-wage crisis ? . . . . . . . > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... That would probably happen if 1. The revolution does not come with objective demands, in the order of demanding State democracy / the vote. Such a demand would work, over the generations, whomeven might win the revolution. 2. If the revolution is like a violent coupe, a fight for the flag. That is by no means the only way you can win. It is a choice to do it that way, dare I say a choice of desperation. The other way is to develop a new better state model, maybe a new economic model too if possible, and simply go do it. Just go do it, using the given freedoms. If enough people joined in, AND it was clear/objective enough, if it was absolutely crystal clear how it was done, then if you have a big majority at some point you can usurp the sovereignty without a bullet fired, without capturing the flag. That is the way I want to do it at least. There is even ways to win within the current system, using the powers of business upstart, finance, and participating in existing state voting systems. We should use all these 4 powers, simultaneously. The choice is yours, if you don't do it, prepare to die in bloody battle and your children may be consigned to a police state hell lasting decades or who knows what will happen. The cost of failure can be significant, the cost of action should be quite reasonable, even marginal. A marginal effort at this point by most people should still win the day with ease. -- http://www.socialism.nl/sheet2.txt <-- Revolutionary scheme (scheme #4) http://www.socialism.nl/sheet3.txt ... http://www.socialism.nl/sheet4.txt ... See ??