The below is an article about a provocative march that is planned for Washington DC, 2013: to march there with loaded guns, which apparently the rulings of the supreme court of the U$A is allowing however Washington DC is still enforcing a ban on weapons carrying. The U$A has a Constitution that affords its citizens an inalienable right to own weapons. This article is reprinted here as an real life example of all provocative marches, their dangers and what else to do, and what the program suggested here (DAVID/9-roads) would mean for such cases. (The article may be hard to follow for who is not familiar with the case, sorry.) ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Tactical Analyses Of The K. March On DC (+1 rating, 1 votes) May 12, 2013 in Activism Edit this entry by Jos Any military even political action has to be analyzed thoroughly and repeatedly by a volley of people, so that superior decisions may result. Analyses means to think through move and counter move, counter-counter move and counter-counter-counter move of both sides, ad infinitum, until our capabilities to foresee are at their ends. This article attempts to help in such an effort, written in the concern that K. has made errors in judgement. 1. K. is defiant and dead-set on his plan, which he has published in detail. The enemy knows what K. is going to do, and knows that K. can not deviate from his plan without good cause without loosing political face. This allows the enemy to take their sweet time with creating counter-tactics. It denies K. to fluidly respond to problems. The benefit that K. seems to be seeking is in the nature of media spectacle: we wanted to cross that bridge and made that clear well in advance and then he hopes to either do it to call that victory, or to be denied and call that an abuse. These are political posturings, not factual achievements on the ground. The bridge will still be the same after the march, everyone will go home and be the same (except that their names are now on various Government lists). This goal explains why K. is so defiant. He apparently thinks the Government has only two options: to allow or to deny entry. This is not true. Enemy counter moves are many and can therefore not all be foreseen. 1. Take away K. from the march. Has the march a command structure that can handle the taking away of the top? It seems not. Even if it has more people involved those do not appear to be well publicized now. To have command requires those being commanded to acknowledge the command. It requires prior public knowledge about who is expected to lead an action. There is a limit to how many people can be so known, a limit so small that they can all be easily taken out of the situation by the enemy. While a ranking structure can easily be set up and made effective even during the confusion of loosing the top commanders, it requires prior organization to establish a system which does not appear to be present. The enemy now has the option of taking away K. to create chaos and confusion within the march. The march is then likely to crumble at the first fundamental problem that requires a decision, such as a blocked road that is not just blocked by police but for example by construction activities which can be created fairly quickly by the enemy at the last moment, for example by creating a small disaster like a broken water line. -> Enemy can create confusion within the march by taking away all who could command the march by the public knowing them. The way around this problem is to form prior organization, to meet up in different places first, and to establish a ranking structure when the organization is para-military (which they are). It is now the 12th of may, there is still time to do this. 2. Obstructing the march. If I where the Regime I would create a line of children's festivities that cross the path of the march, and are even on the key points such as bridges or important places. I would also create second marches by bands and people having fun that will cross the path of the K. march. The cameras will then record how K. is ruining a great party for children, from which he will not politically recover. The cameras will also record that K. does not want to make room for music playing bands and the people that are behind them. To create additional problems I will have the music playing band walk directly in the opposite direction of a road that K. goes the other way, it should be long and it should be cordoned off with fenses. It is like a long trap, the only way is to go forward or backwards. People will line both sides of the road to add to this trap, preventing the K. march from going out of the way of the band easily. The bands will be many behind each other, so that if K. somehow manages to escape a civil conflagration, he is stationed on a sideroad for considderable time, which shows who is boss and who is the one who is ruining the fun for themselves. Ideally the K. march is being compacted by minor incidents at the head leading into this trap. A police group can be immediately behind the K. march, gently forcing the rear to be fast enough to keep the whole group compact. This can be an official policy to keep the march compact because we want the streets open for the people quickly again, who want to have fun that day and to forget about these malcontents. This will wash fairly well with the people and the police. So compacted, the march will then be stopped at a point in the cordoned off road (it's cordoned off on the sides somehow, with people and if needed by higher 3 meter fenses that are locked to each other with chains that no police officer can quickly open up.) The goal is to create a civil conflagration. The bands will march wide over the street and also be compact, and the K. march will also be compact, to make it harder for both to avoid each other. At the rear the police will block the path back wards for K., at least for 45 minutes. The band will refuse to go on, claiming that K. is in the way unless such a claim becomes thoroughly untennable. The people behind the bands will be gently coerced to walk into the bands to create chaos. A few operatives will faint within the band march, perhaps some ordinary people will faint, and a big show will be made of ambulances that have to reach them but can not. The media will create a show of how K. is ruining the day for everyone in the marching band, who have worked so hard for this. If K. manages to avoid this trap and his forces are split up, then they are confused because they only have one command. This opens up the possibility of a limited riot with one of the groups, under the idea that the march has to be held together. Later this can be whitewashed because the police was confused as potentially armed and dangerous men where loose around the city in small units and the police panicked because they are so concerned about the citizens safety. The police then uses fairly brute means to try to drive these groups into various places, claiming the attempt is to drive them together again (whether that is true or false, it can be claimed that was the aim but confusion prevented this from occuring properly.) To add to the confusion, K. can be arrested once he deviates from his path. This can be claimed to be because he went off the path he had agreed to take, and although this was not his fault the arresting officers where not aware of that when they arrested K.. With K. out of the way for an hour or so, the confusion will mount within the march that is now off its path and potentially blockaded. Secondary blockades around the trap will catch the march if they somehow escape the trap in good order. This is but one strategem that the enemy now has their sweet time to prepare: the strategem of blockade. This attack can be attempted to be foiled like so: the spectacle of angry armed men ruining childrens parties can be helped by the K. march looking sweet and cute, with flowers and loving signs. That way they will blend in with the festivities as more fun loving people and not make a TV spectacle of people who just hate others having a great day, and are determined to ruin it for them. The blockade can be dealt with by the K. march walking double file for example, so that it is elongated and can make itself flat as a pancake for other traffic to pass them. Warning: people like K. have a propensity to want to walk broad and obvious, because they are looking for media spectacle and attention. It will need strong convincing and discipline to keep K. in line with this, even at the last moment and during the entire march K. must be stopped in going to march broad (I've seen this happen in marches at least with my own eyes, that the organizers went on to walk broad without any good reason.) The front of the march will move first and walk fast, and the back of the march will start slow and move slow, so that an elongated march results, which makes it flexible (by the way, it also reduces casualties if the enemy wants to bomb or shoot at the march.) There need to be stationed some 10 sergeants along the length of the march, who will pace their sector. The 10 sergeants have to be in constant communication monitoring the march on all sides, and they need to have people around them who can pace their sector by walking at a certain pace showing the others around them what the pace should be. This pacing system of course requires people who measure the shape of the formation, so that the proper consistency can be maintained *). This may sound like overkill, but if the front stops then the rear must stop quickly to prevent the enemy the ability to shape the formation to what they may want it to be for certain counter-strategies (for example causing a civil disturbance by massing people unto each other.) This is where prior training and organization helps (something K. is not doing.) It is noted that this is an armed march, and therefore the people in it are not just ordinary citizens who can march however they want. This is a proper place for discipline and correct formation marching. It is quite possible that they will be capable of doing this by marching in military lockstep. In that case only a dual file formation will be needed, with heads on each section that will call for a stop when the formation before stops. 3. Other attacks by the enemy include: creating some sort of a problem with guns or explosives. This can be done by unconnected criminals, inviting the K. forces to step in and save a citizen, but the event will all be agents and it will be made so that the K. forces can only do wrong. Someone will get wounded, the media will blame K., and K. will spend the rest of his life saying he didn't do it; that will likely end K. politically because nobody believes the undisciplined, disgruntled Iraq veteran Corporal with an unbecoming charge, a rough beard and muscle arms. Another possibility is the always working provocatour agent who will shoot from within the march. This can create a standoff with the police. This can be done after the above mentioned civil music band disturbance has been created. The media can then later say that the marchers where angry with the disturbance, and with their finger on a loaded gun and the heat of the sun on their heads, one of them lost their self-control and did something bad when there was another problem which they are bound to get into because it is a festivities day. At this point, if the marching-band civil disturbance has succeeded for the enemy, and another minor incident occurs with gun fire, the police can reasonably detain the whole march and the public will love them for it. This will set a public precedent for arresting armed men in the street, and show clearly that Americans can not be armed. A way to deal with this for the K. march is to have prior organization and vetting, and just to not march in provocative places. By having prior organization it can be prevented that someone can fire this provocative round, but also that when it happens you can credibly distance yourselve from it. With a "loose rabble" (the mass media can easily claim) march that does allow almost no control, you are both inviting these provocateurs and having no means to distance yourselve and your organization from it, and to show to the people you did what you had to prevent this. However this is a difficult problem, and therefore it is probably better not to carry loaded guns and even not carry ammunition. The ammunition could in theory be carried by separate munitions carriers, who are under strict orders not to hand out this munition to anyone.*) That way if someone shoots, you can say that they broke the march rules. That gives you some cover against provocateurs. Unfortunately here again K. has put himself into a political trap by demanding the guns be loaded (!). And so on .... Strategic: They have a law (so I hear) that you can not carry weapons in DC. It is already a law, that means it is ratified to a fairly great extend, it is a known practice, and nobody cares already that it violates the Constitution of America. If they cared, they would have forced a repeal of that law, they have not (have they?), and succeeded. The conditions do not seem to be there that a march like this can work. Even if those conditions are there, you need to do the necessary organizational preparation and training, and you need a flexible plan that can deal with all the blockading and violence games the Regime could try. To create a legal precedent to take to the courts to test this law it is only needed for one person to carry a gun and allow himself to be arrested. I suggest to use someone who has been well behaved all his life, has no relation to the military or bloodshed of any kind, is nice and well spoken, perhaps even a lawyer himself. regards, jos ***************************** *) I suggest to use flag signals and not radio communications, for example maritime flag http://feelingmyage.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/signalflags.jpg C when all goes normal is constantly flown, and flag L is used to immediately halt the march along the stretch of it (both the discplined part and the non-discplined part, if there are two sections.) Flag F can be used to signal that every Sergeant should send a communicator to the central command of the march, flag K that a signal or communicator-runner is coming to all sectors to inform them of new decisions, and so on. Better to use flags because the enemy could jam radio equipment, and without even using radio equipment one does not have to rely on it. Secondly everyone can see the signals, and openness is always something that breeds trust with the public (and within the march itself). A flag for break up and disperse may be a good idea also. Because the enemy, knowing flags may be used, could now attempt to also show maritime flags, a secret emblem should accompany the signal flags that the enemy will be unable to replicate the last second or even at all because of its political meaning showing support for the 2nd ammendment etc. **) I suggest to use a 5 centimeter of blanks on top of foam in some kind of boxes. It seems to be ammunition, but it is nothing, it is only for show. At the march beginning and at the end, you will show some people that it was fake ammunition. (This will also make it less heavy for who has to deal with this ammunition.) The fact is that this march has no military capabilities, it is only a media spectacle, it is a protest march and should be handled like one. It's military capabilities are limited to surrendering immediately, limiting the amount of time the enemy can put the marchers in jail. Real ammunition has hence no role here, it will only assist a provocatour. It is bad enough that people are likely to carry ammunition on their person anyway. To reduce the dangers more I suggest at least the protest command all goes without carrying ammunition on their person, so that when the quite likely arrest comes they will not be found with any ammunition. Furthermore if shots get fired, the ammunition can be more easily traced to a purpetrator (who will likely be a secret agent for the Regime.) Doesn't this defeat the whole idea behind the march ? Yes, but this march march and not a revolution seems to be a bad idea right now in general, and is handled badly in this case. Now one has to be in damage control and try to lessen the potential for disaster. K. has already maneuvred himself into a loose-loose situation, the Regime has all the winning cards and they will play with K. like a cat plays with a mouse. Not every protest is necessarily a political success: if too few show up it shows there is no popular support for something, it backfires. What to do then, do nothing: not at all, use the ammunition where it is in its proper place, which is in the defense of those the Regime may want to actually assassinate, such as whistle blowers and the like. There you can go armed. Secondly you could go armed when training for militia type organizations, not getting sidetracked by the bad name the media gives that but doing it in a good way which would over time disproof the media bias. Then maybe at some point it might be the right time and place to march armed though DC to show the law and that the People rule. ********************* P.S. It strikes me as amuzing that the conclusion of this analyses is that K. has to be closely overseen by a superior officer, and that his proposals have to be changed and that if the power existed they should be discarded alltogether. K. is a Corporal, not a General, much less a Grand Revolutionary General that he tries to be with his overthrow of an Imperial Government that holds the entire world in its claws. Such a joke that is, 1000 men that they hope to get together at the stretch are going to overthrow the Government, based off of a movie script about masked street hordes. That's a movie made up by distrusted Hollywood, it's not reality, it doesn't work that way. The US Army did one thing right at least, demoting K. from Sergeant to Corporal. Sorry to sound mean but that is an honest conclusion, there is no dishonor in being a Corporal, I don't see why he couldn't make a great one. Corporals always dash forward as K. is doing, because while a General might call for a retreat and is retreating, a Corporal just turns around and dashes forward the other way. It's their way and it's great to have. #################################################################################### COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE: Comment rules 7 responses to Tactical analyses of the K. march on DC Austin said on May 12, 2013 --------------------------------------------------------- I really appreciate this post;however, 1. I am sure K. has more than one plan. 2. you used 1 twice lulz (j/k) 3. Any army officer has read Clausewitz ON WAR and knows that the only certainty in war is that No information is reliable 4. The point/spirit of the march will not go unheard nationwide. 5. Many people will march with him across the bridge. 6. Your concern is heartmoving and truly to be appreciated. 7. While all of your points are valid you know better than most (base upon what you have said) that there is a counter to everything. It is my humble opinion that K. feels he is holding a mountain pass on this one and also feels that even if he falls another will take his place to hold the pass in the face of the horde. I pray that I am right and that your analysis proves to be wrong, I can hope that the march is timely and effects positive change and dialogue. With all that said I can't help but agree with a lot of your points. Again i hope you are wrong and this does not end badly. My thoughts and prayers will go out to all that march on July 4th in Washington D.C. Very Best Regards, Austin Jos said on May 12, 2013 --------------------------------------------------------- OK ! I used 2 twice, that shows i'm not that smart either and so i'll leave it like that: nobody may have all the answers and neither me ; ). Has K. more then 1 plan ? I don't know, we can not assume that he has. If he has he needs to publish it because if he is taken away then the remainder may need that plan. Since there is no organization he can only publish it to all. Thanks for enjoying to read this (makes me glad man, usually nobody cares and it disappears into the night). It is true that there is a theoretical counter to everything, but what matters now is to avoid the major issues and not make it too easy for the enemy. When we have dodged the major problems by planning ahead, our minds will of course slowly go over all of these major danger in the coming time and we will no doubt create a deeper layer of tactical responses. For example what are we going to do once broken up, and what are we going to do when faced not with one blockade that we avoided, but a deeper field of obstacles that seem we can not overcome will we stay put and if so, do we need to carry some beers to make it through to the evening. With all this thinking going on in the background, the situation may be what we did not expect, but there may be similarities and we go in more confident in any case. I hope too that the march can go well, there are some ideas in the above that can still help. K. seems to not plan any excercizes now, he can still do that, he hasn't made up a march command structure he can still do it, he hasn't created a signals system he can still do it, he has still time to soften his stance on the route in case sweet children are playing catch the lollypop, so that he will not feel so much pressure on that day to stick to a given route but is flexible. K. can still say I have rethought the dangers of a false flag, and decided we will put our ammo in general baskets, I don't think he will accept the blanks idea but this is already better to deal with the false-flag danger. If he said that, the people will think he is a wise considerate commander who has revised his plans wisely (if they agree to that central ammunition idea at least). He doesn't come off as dumb, he can still revise some of his plans now it's not too late and won't cost public face. If he goes there on the 4th and must then revise his plans, then that will cost public face. The march is probably going to be attempted one way or the other, there is time left to try to make it go better. Despite all the above negative gripes, the march could be a great success too, it could go great and rally people even if K. does it exactly as he is planning. Like you said anything is possible Reply\t Edit Jos said on May 12, 2013 --------------------------------------------------------- While i'm making up ideas: don't march in military uniform but wear general cammouflage that is not given by the military, so that the military does not have to deal with this. Secondly the American army outfit is associated with Imperialism now at least in part, despite romantic ideas within America about spreading democracy and the revolution by Washington. There is no good reason to use the official army dress, hence why risk it. It's a people's revolution, then why not use the people's clothing (common camouflage). There are probably going to be privates, corporals and Sergeants at the march, perhaps lieutenants and higher as well. This can form the command of the march, however that creates a danger that the enemy will send in a high ranking agent thus controlling the march making sure it fails somehow. Hence a system would be needed that can create some sort of a command structure that is not easily infiltrated and if it is that it can easily be dealt with (offending agent can be deposed.) I happen to have created a voting system for this issue within militias: groups of people who are part of the overall effort form and each sends in a representative. These groups can be for example 10 persons big (up to 50 maximum), it depends on what you need (I had tables for dealing with any group size fast ready years ago). The representatives form a council and appoint by majority vote the top and second in command (for example one captain and 4 lieutenants). Those then form the rest of the ranking structure by command you Sergeant you private etc. What you then have is already 5 in command but perhaps more importantly there is this dispersed council that has the power to appoint top commanders. Now let's say the formation is broken into 3 groups, one with K., one without, and one is small. But you have these dispersed council people, and they may not even need to carry any insignias openly. Even if they get taken out that group can appoint a new one fast on the spot, or even reform such groups, get a delegate going, form a small new council and get a commander ready right there. With some training this could perhaps be done in half an hour depending on the size of the detachment (training training, something to do during the BBQ well before this march - training means remembering during tense moments.) So when a detachment gets cut off, and someone says we should do this and the other we do that and a third but you both are infiltrators for the Regime, you have a way to get out of that by forming a new command. It's quite flexible. That is already under the assumption that one detachment is without any superior commander prior established, for example one detachment has 2 lieutenant and the other also 2, which would already solve the command problem before it occurs. Another possibility is to bring out the delegates if they are there, and they can quickly appoint a detachment command, or vote on a problem with command; this is more likely to work properly if the groups who vote together also walk together and have their delegate with them. Then they are more likely to be together in a broken off group. Secondly if the delegate is not with the group, a group who has already voted once can do it a second time faster. This system by the way is meant to control militias, but this way it can also help on a march. First I thought let K. be outranked but could be a send agent. Reply\t Edit Jos said on May 13, 2013 --------------------------------------------------------- Just thinking about all this a bit more - how I would do this. Like I said don't march in DC now, the numbers and organization isn't there to do it, march in your own neighborhood or city wherever you can get enough ppl together (it would be nice to have 1500 per march or more, so you don't look silly with too few people.) The signs should be made with care, with love, with craftsmanship. What first came to mind is beautifully made signs that spell out the 2nd ammendment (if that is your main concern). Put money together and buy good quality fabric, perhaps 4 or 3 meter long by 2, but remember you need enough holes to let the wind pass or it's a sail that will be ripped from your hands. A solution is to let it fly loose, but for example from an horizontal bar. With some weight on the lower side it will usually be readable, but a gust will only yank it backwards as a flag. You can walk such a sign broad or on the side (making yourself not obstruct traffic). Then find someone who is a good painter of some kind, get good fabric paint and make something beautiful ideally with curley letters. Something that you can use over and over again, for years, all over. You only need to do a good job once. If possible have music on the march, make it an event that is fun to do, a gathering, a walk in the park also, and something that lifts the hearts of all who see it including the cops who may walk along it. There is no need to obstruct any bridges or occupy any squares, on the contrary: keep it well out of the way of major traffic. It's the groundswell of the people gathering where the people are, and that's in all the neighborhoods and the smaller towns. That's where the power is supposed to be, that's who should be told the message of the truth or what you think is the truth. It's a democracy or should be one, rallying the people and making them happy is what it's all about. In any case: if you ever succeed at a real revolution you become the power, or you establish a system that creates the representative, and then you need to be of the type of people that go to the people, rather then go to the kings and bankers. So this is a good strategic thing I guess, and the People may see it and understand that this is a good thing and support it more. Personally I would not go for the neo-socialist/anarchist revolutionary writing style, which is almost military, crude with big black, white and red. I'd say go to the style of the original American revolution, with flowers, curley letters and beautiful things that require some skill to make. Want to carry loaded guns ? You get such a good name for yourself that soon enough you could do that and if you get attacked then the people are going to think why did these neat people need to be attacked ? By the way, if during attacks these beautiful signs get damaged, they become war trophies and symbols of tyranny. That's how I would march (btw already wrote that in my Revolution manual http://www.law4.org/book2 Jos said on May 13, 2013 --------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Austin, I talked to a friend of mine and he didn't think K. was a plant so I'll give K. the benefit of the doubt on that (which is politically honorable anyway, but being a psyops guy etc etc .. it's a Revolution and if it looks bad I assume it is bad normally; but I also see the logic that he is a cornered freedom loving American who does what he can, and being ousted from the Army and all that the story also makes sense in that way). Hence I put a youtube comment under one of K. videos. He is not likely to see that, but it's all I can do. Remember that if you push your own stuff, people are not going to care. But if someone pushes someone else's stuff, they might, so if you think this could be fruitful, by all means ! By the way I didn't spitball this with anyone, I just think about it for myself. Not hard to do: just imagine the march and watch it from the side of the Government and come up with creative ideas to defeat it; that's how I always do it anyway. Austin said on May 12, 2013 --------------------------------------------------------- Just a quick note here, i did say i agree with a lot of your points i started thinking while reading your responses(and then i re read original post) that maybe you might want to contact K. you do have some good ideas. You could tell him you have been spitballing the pros and cons around the web with people and then tell him your findings. It's worth a shot email him or track down a number to call him. You definitely care and you can see the truth of it in your writing. Thanks for all your words and keep up the infowar! Reply\t Edit Jos said on May 12, 2013 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I know K. isn't a bad guy, I admire his courage, BUT MY GUT SAYS IT IS BAD." - Alex Jones, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OoMHqoaJC8 44:00 If Alex breaks his own rule that he said he never should break because that's when things go wrong, then listen to Alex' gut if you don't wish to think about arguments, and don't go with the K. march. Not perhaps because the march is bad in principle, but because it's badly handled. If K. can be removed from this march command and it can be done properly, it might still be a good thing. You can't keep trying to march in DC over and over, there are a limited amount of chances here to do this right. Chances are K. will go in wild, he can not be stopped he is out of control. If this nature of the situation continues until the end of this month without improvement (such as above suggested), I suggest a rather harsh distancing from K. because of the likelyhood of major messup by K., possibly on purpose but if not easily done by the Government, and then you need to be shielded from all that by your prior rejection. Oh ok Alex, if it's way over your head, read my stuffs because all I do is create my systems for situations like this, and this is nothing yet. I can handle it, just saying. You just handed in your resignation to be an active advisor of the Revolution that's fine be the best journalist you are what more could anyone want. (By the way, for the record, I don't handle anything nevertheless I give my advices to those who care for arguments in their own right, good luck. Silly as it sounds, I can handle it, it's not a big deal. I gave my recommendations on this little march, isn't that a superior set of ideas to either K. or you ? Shine light on my proposals, please, more messups are going to come. By the way: everyone start gardening, Alex is right about that the revolution needs to eat.) Sigh sorry to become silly here, I don't know what i need to do anymore to get someone to give an argument an honest chance. Reply\t Edit ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ notes: * This article is put in category 'Revolution,' although it may even only belong in category o-3 politics because it is merely a protest march. They may fancy it belongs under the rubric of armed resistance (o-5 or even o-6 here), but they are not a credible force. Their goals are also not military (despite some vague pretences), but political ('to change the conversation.) Within the DAVID/9-roads system the rules for o-3 would apply, which also has rules for marches. The rules for o-5 and o-6 do not apply, because o-5: they are not directly protecting anyone, o-6 because this is not an advanced state of civil war where the people are liberating territory from tyrannical armed gangs. o-7 does not apply obviously, o-8 does not apply either. o-4 does not apply because that is something entirely different then what they are doing. At the stretch this might be part of o-5 militias stretching their legs, in which case nevertheless it should be non-provocative and generally close to the o-3 march rules. These are not new rules made up now, but the logic of the DAVID/9-roads system as already presented, applied to this particular situation. O-2 does not apply. They could include o-1 efforts if leaflets are given out (etc). Conclusion: whatever they are doing, it has little or nothing to do with this DAVID/9-roads system.